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Kevin Flynn
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LegacyYour last visit to this thread was on 1/1/1970 12:00:00 AM
Posted: 08 Jan 08 2:23 PM
We have a client that wants to be upgraded yet doesn't have the budget to convert their legacy to active forms at the moment. Does anyone know how long or what version of SLX will stop supporting legacy?
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Ryan Farley
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Re: LegacyYour last visit to this thread was on 1/1/1970 12:00:00 AM
Posted: 08 Jan 08 2:58 PM
In the next major version later this year. At that point technically neither legacy forms or VBScript forms will be supported (although there will be some limmited conversion from VBScript forms to the new .NET forms in that version)

For current versions up to any 7.x versions, legacy will be supported.
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Michael Rogers
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Re: LegacyYour last visit to this thread was on 1/1/1970 12:00:00 AM
Posted: 08 Jan 08 3:19 PM
Ryan, did you just say they are going to kill Legacy AND active form support in the same release? Bold move for SLX!
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Bob (RJ)Ledger
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Re: LegacyYour last visit to this thread was on 1/1/1970 12:00:00 AM
Posted: 09 Jan 08 7:29 AM
That is correct.. Unlike the present version that allows for Cypress scripts and the old views.. the next major release (8.x AFAIK) will NOT support any of the existing technology... BUT there will be "Conversion tools" built-into it..

However, that is a long time off.. (in business terms) and I expect to see 7.x systems still up and running for years to come.

FYI.. the conversion tools will only convert ActiveX and VBScript.. and will NOT convert teh "legacy"" Cypress scripts or views. So it IS a good investment to get them ALL changed over.

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Chris Burriss
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Re: LegacyYour last visit to this thread was on 1/1/1970 12:00:00 AM
Posted: 09 Jan 08 1:46 PM
Will the out-of-the-box SalesLogix forms be programmed in VB .Net or C# .Net? Thanks.

Chris Burriss
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Bob (RJ)Ledger
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Re: LegacyYour last visit to this thread was on 1/1/1970 12:00:00 AM
Posted: 10 Jan 08 6:24 AM
Both... just like you can do both in today's v7.2.x web.

However, don't worry about it.. there will be new certifications/training, etc.. required... This stuff is at least a year away before we start to see anything beta.. It's a total waste of time thinking about it right now...

Since you are a partner, you have access to the same "insider info" as the rest of us (webcasts.. emailings.. Insights.., etc).

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Robert Levine
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Re: LegacyYour last visit to this thread was on 1/1/1970 12:00:00 AM
Posted: 10 Jan 08 8:33 AM
Thanks for the heads up. For the future, what should I start learning/studying: VB.NET or ASP.NET ?
And what will be the advantages of these new development methods?
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Bob (RJ)Ledger
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Re: LegacyYour last visit to this thread was on 1/1/1970 12:00:00 AM
Posted: 11 Jan 08 7:08 AM
You need to have an understanding of ASP.NET to deal with the new web stuff.. and then there's AJAX.. and then.... the list goes on and on..

It's the toolsets ans well as understanding how to translate/transform business needs and requirements into solutions. Now that's where the real "sweet spot" is located.. and NOTHING substitutes for experience...

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Ryan Farley
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Re: LegacyYour last visit to this thread was on 1/1/1970 12:00:00 AM
Posted: 11 Jan 08 2:31 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Chris Burriss

Will the out-of-the-box SalesLogix forms be programmed in VB .Net or C# .Net?


Well, it doesn't matter as much as you might think. The application is architected completely different. You'll find that you hardly *ever* look at OOTB code. Your code is a layer on top of it in most cases, so it does't matter that the OOTB code was in C# if you want to code in VB.NET, yours sits on top of the OOTB code and can be either C#, VB.NET (or even select your own .NET DLL in the language of your choice).

The OOTB code is in C#, but, like I said, that really won't matter too much for doing customizations if you don't know C# IMO.

-Ryan
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Ryan Farley
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Re: LegacyYour last visit to this thread was on 1/1/1970 12:00:00 AM
Posted: 11 Jan 08 3:01 PM
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Originally posted by Robert Levine

Thanks for the heads up. For the future, what should I start learning/studying: VB.NET or ASP.NET ?
And what will be the advantages of these new development methods?


IMO you can get by without a heavy knowledge of ASP.NET. Even less of a need to learn anything about Ajax - you'll never see or deal with one bit of it since that all just happens under the hood. Sure it will help to know some ASP.NET, but most of what you're doing doesn't really have that much to do with ASP.NET - it just all gets pumped out to ASP.NET stuff now, but when the windows client makes it to this new platform it will all get pumped out as .NET WinForms and UserControls. If you wanted to start preparing for that now, your best bet is to just focus on .NET programming basics.

-Ryan
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Robert Levine
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Re: LegacyYour last visit to this thread was on 1/1/1970 12:00:00 AM
Posted: 11 Jan 08 3:46 PM
Ryan & Bob,
Thanks all for the good advice. I haven't used VB.NET or ASP.NET, but I'm an old VB6 programmer. It looks like SaleLogix is taking the system in the right direction, so I don't mind learning new stuff. I'm actually looking forward to it. Now if we could only get Crystal Reports to clean up their act....
Have a good weekend,
-Bob
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